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because these same republicans say they don't want to cut defense. they've claimed that they don't want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable. but the truth of the matter is that you can't meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. so the math just doesn't add up. now, here's what would work. what would work would be for us to say, we've already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction, and if you add the interest that we won't be paying because of less spending and increased revenue, it adds up to about $2.5 trillion. the consensus is, we need about $4 trillion to stabilize our debt and our deficit. which means we need about $1.5 trillion more. the package that i offered to speaker boehner before we -- before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure that we are being responsible about our debt and our deficit, if that's the conversation we're having, i'm happy to have th
because these same republicans say they don't want to cut defense. they've claimed that they don't want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable. but the truth of the matter is that you can't meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. so the math just doesn't add up. now, here's what would work. what would work would be for us to say, we've already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction, and if you add...
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it means people in the military, defense, they won't get paid. those things dependent on government revenue will come to a halt. there has to be a compromise. we just have to. it's unthinkable we won't compromise. >> hopefully they'll compromise. there are just weeks left. we are waiting. it seems like we're in the same position you and i were in just a couple of weeks ago. we were talking about averting the fiscal cliff. hopefully we won't have to have that same kind of standoff. but it certainly sounds like neither side is budging. we've heard from the republicans, their response as well, and they say, we're sticking to our guns. we're also going to talk to personal financial expert suze orman. she'll weigh in and your personal finances as well. be back in a moment. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. it's lots
it means people in the military, defense, they won't get paid. those things dependent on government revenue will come to a halt. there has to be a compromise. we just have to. it's unthinkable we won't compromise. >> hopefully they'll compromise. there are just weeks left. we are waiting. it seems like we're in the same position you and i were in just a couple of weeks ago. we were talking about averting the fiscal cliff. hopefully we won't have to have that same kind of standoff. but it...
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if the question is would you like to cut grandma's medicare, would you like to cut defense, then you get down to what is actually involved. in this situation, you know, the president can obey one law. there's a law that says you will spend some this money. then there's this other law that says you will not spend this money. he can't obey both of them at once. >> curt, the other thing that the president did over and over again was try and put some -- put this negotiation, this battle, if you will, in the context of i think the international stage, which is that america is not a deadbeat nation. i actually thought that was a really effective rhetorical device, if that's what it was, which is to say let's take a look at ours. let's take a look at the ways in which we are shooting ourselves in the feet. it is hurting not just our economy, not just our sort of domestic dynamics, but it is -- what is america about? this is not who we are as a people. >> and using language like we're not a deadbeat nation is a good concrete way i think to frame this. if i'm the republicans, i don't understa
if the question is would you like to cut grandma's medicare, would you like to cut defense, then you get down to what is actually involved. in this situation, you know, the president can obey one law. there's a law that says you will spend some this money. then there's this other law that says you will not spend this money. he can't obey both of them at once. >> curt, the other thing that the president did over and over again was try and put some -- put this negotiation, this battle, if...
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they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you immediate to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. they have the spending power. i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. separately they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid, and so what congress can't do is tell me to spend x and then say, but we're not going to give you the authority to go ahead and pay the bills. i just want to repeat because i think sometimes the american people understandably aren't following all the debates here in washington. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. the consequences of us not paying our bills as i outlined in my openings statement would be disastrous. so i understand the impulse to try to get around this in a simple way. there's one way to get around this. there's o
they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you immediate to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. they have the spending power. i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. separately they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid, and so what congress can't do is tell me to spend x and then say,...
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the same republicans say they do not want to cut defense. they claim they do not want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable. the truth is, you cannot meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare. or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. the math just does not add up. here is what would work. what would work is for us to say we have already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction and if you add the interest that we will not be paying because of less spending and increased revenue, it adds up to about $2.5 trillion. the consensus is we need about $4 trillion to stabilize our debt and deficit. the package i introduced to speaker boehner before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. if the goal is to make sure that we are being responsible about our debt and deficit, if that is a conversation we are having, i am happy to have that conversation. by closing some additional loopholes and tax reform, which speaker boehner has acknowledged i
the same republicans say they do not want to cut defense. they claim they do not want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable. the truth is, you cannot meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare. or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. the math just does not add up. here is what would work. what would work is for us to say we have already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction and if you add the interest that we will not be paying because of...
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they're across the board on the entitlement side as well as the defense side. and i think as the governor rightly pointed out that there is balanced pain. so there is some value to making a point there. but i think also leading up to that, the argument wants to be made and needs to be made by republicans in the congress and around the country that to the governor's point, we do have a broad-based spending probable that is intractable at this point. and that it involves, yes, you know, the debt, the nation's credit card. it involves the size and the growth of government and how big it should or should not with. and so having that conversation can be good a as long as on the outside of it, that there are some definable directions that we can take to cut the government spending, to bring this thing back and then to control. and that leads us to the point the government just made on sequester. >> congressman marshall blackburn of tennessee, she says government shutdown is an option. >> i think that there is a way to avoid default if it requires shutting down certai
they're across the board on the entitlement side as well as the defense side. and i think as the governor rightly pointed out that there is balanced pain. so there is some value to making a point there. but i think also leading up to that, the argument wants to be made and needs to be made by republicans in the congress and around the country that to the governor's point, we do have a broad-based spending probable that is intractable at this point. and that it involves, yes, you know, the debt,...
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spending cuts, the domestic side, plus for defense. you have been for avoiding this at all cost. do you think it could still be avoided or do you assume it's going to be implemented? >> i think it will get avoided. i really do not believe we're going to go through sequestrati sequestration. if we can engage the american people on dialogue so people would know what it is that we're talking about, we're talking about a dramatic cut in veterans benefits, in other benefits that have been promised to the american people. we're talking about across the board cuts. i think that we ought to sit down, use the -- and really diff differ. >> you mean defense contracts versus military what? >> taking care of our men and women in uniform. the infrastructure that needs to be made on these military insulations. i've been in the shadows of ft. jackson. we're transitioned to these facilities and we're still in a transition. there's a lot of infrastructure. we ought to mess with at all, but when it comes to a lot of these exotic defense programs that may or may not work, we have spent billions and
spending cuts, the domestic side, plus for defense. you have been for avoiding this at all cost. do you think it could still be avoided or do you assume it's going to be implemented? >> i think it will get avoided. i really do not believe we're going to go through sequestrati sequestration. if we can engage the american people on dialogue so people would know what it is that we're talking about, we're talking about a dramatic cut in veterans benefits, in other benefits that have been...
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that's got to be the poorest defense of tokenism i have ever heard, isn't it? >> what general powell said is right. the problem is this, the rest of the country is moving in a certain direction demographically in a way that makes it more possible than ever for a democrat to win a presidential race, makes it more possible than ever for democrats to start winning all of these statewide races and senate races. those same demographic changes, however, are not happening in the majority of house districts across the country. the coalition that elected president obama this year more than ever this democratic coalition is bunched into the metropolitan areas. the statistics that jumps out at me is this. in 1988 when michael dukakis got flattened in the presidential race he won over 800 counties nationally. this year getting re-elected by 5 million votes, barack obama won only 690 counties. the democrat vote is so tightly bunched into these areas, you have these wide swaths of district after district after district that do not look like the rest of america, that are not
that's got to be the poorest defense of tokenism i have ever heard, isn't it? >> what general powell said is right. the problem is this, the rest of the country is moving in a certain direction demographically in a way that makes it more possible than ever for a democrat to win a presidential race, makes it more possible than ever for democrats to start winning all of these statewide races and senate races. those same demographic changes, however, are not happening in the majority of...
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are we really better off when we say no defense is a good defense? >> chris: i want to put up an ad that gun control advocates have started running against new democratic senator heidi hei dcamp of north dakota when she said some of the president's ideas about gun control are extreme. will that work. can ms. tanden and their allies and they have suggested they can drive a wedge between people like you, the heads of the nra and some of their members who may not be as hardline as you guys are on gun controls? >> i think the senator from north dakota is reflecting the views of the people that sent her to washington. so i don't think there is much room to drive any wedge. i think she is representing them rather faithfully and i think it is noteworthy that a democrat who would be under a lot of pressure within their are caucus to take a gun control point of view is not having anything other. >> that s not true. heidi heidcamp has heard from both sides of the issue and now said she is open to discussion of the issues. i think the challenge here for the lea
are we really better off when we say no defense is a good defense? >> chris: i want to put up an ad that gun control advocates have started running against new democratic senator heidi hei dcamp of north dakota when she said some of the president's ideas about gun control are extreme. will that work. can ms. tanden and their allies and they have suggested they can drive a wedge between people like you, the heads of the nra and some of their members who may not be as hardline as you guys...
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thank you for joining us from the foundation of defense for democracy. jon: questions about a newspaper's position of publishing a map of names and addresses of legal and permit gun owners. our news watch panel joins us next. [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. i took theraflu, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] truth is theraflu doesn't treat your cough. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus severe cold and flu fights your worst flu symptoms, plus that cough. [ sighs ] thanks!... [ male annouer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! >> this just in, house speaker john boehner reacting to the president's news conference that was held a short while ago. specifically boehner commenting on the debt ceiling, and his statement in part reads this. the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing gover
thank you for joining us from the foundation of defense for democracy. jon: questions about a newspaper's position of publishing a map of names and addresses of legal and permit gun owners. our news watch panel joins us next. [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. i took theraflu, but...
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they tell me, you need to fund our defense department, at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay this out for me. because they have the spending power. so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these ibms. separately they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid. what congress can't do is tell me to spend "x" and then say but we're not going to give you the authority to go ahead and pay the bills. and i just want to repeat because i think sometimes the american people understandably aren't following all the debates here in washington. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. and the consequences of us not paying our bills as i outlined in my opening statement, would be disastrous. so i understand the impulse to try to get around this in a simple way. but there's one way to get around this. th
they tell me, you need to fund our defense department, at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay this out for me. because they have the spending power. so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these ibms. separately they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid. what congress can't do is tell me to spend "x" and then...
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that's the defense department. the president controls a lot of other executive-branch agencies that have budgets and the ability to arrange transportation. he would have to grow a big pair. >> if the obama administration signed an order to close guantanamo within a year, they would do a review process. they realized that in order to get third countries to take people from guantanamo, we have to take some. there was a plan to put a certain ethnic groups in northern virginia rather is already that ethnic group. these were totally innocent people. a congressman found out about it and said you cannot take these guantanamo terrorists to my country. in fairness, obama announced the closing of guantanamo and dick cheney said it's a horrible idea, but these are the worst of the worst, a statement that was false. 40 of the people had been cleared by the bush administration. 40 more won habeas cases. peter dick cheney was lying or did not know the facts. the obama administration did not take them on, in any event. then they
that's the defense department. the president controls a lot of other executive-branch agencies that have budgets and the ability to arrange transportation. he would have to grow a big pair. >> if the obama administration signed an order to close guantanamo within a year, they would do a review process. they realized that in order to get third countries to take people from guantanamo, we have to take some. there was a plan to put a certain ethnic groups in northern virginia rather is...
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. >> the plan would also delay across-the-board spending cuts for defense and most federal agencies. but only for two months. kicking the can on tough decisions to reduce government spending >> jon: did i say save? i meant moved her a half mile further down the track. so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon: republican or democrat, senator or congressman, team edward or team jacob, everyone agrees john boehner sucks. at least we can be assured that as the incoming congress votes for a new speaker of the house, it's clear what the outcome is going to be. >> john boehner won re-election as house speaker today. >> jon: oh, boy. (train whistle blowing) >> jon: welcome back
. >> the plan would also delay across-the-board spending cuts for defense and most federal agencies. but only for two months. kicking the can on tough decisions to reduce government spending >> jon: did i say save? i meant moved her a half mile further down the track. so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a...
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bruising confirmation hearings about the nomination of former senator chuck hagel for secretary of defense. today, republican senator john mccain promised a grilling on hagel's record against a troop surge in iraq. >> when he really believes that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, that clearly is not -- that's not correct. i mean, in fact, it's bizarre. >> hagel has also faced fire for supporting negotiations with iran, still widely believed to be on the path of making nuclear weapons. today, former secretary of state collin powell vigorously defended hagel. >> what chuck hagel has said is that nothing is ever off the table, but he is one who believes in the prospects for negotiation. we have been ready to negotiate under the right set of circumstances with iran for the last several years, with our friends and allies. >> meantime, hagel says his remarks on israel, iran and gays in the military have been distorted. confirmation hearings could start as early as this week. >>> the family of aaron swartz, a young internet pioneer who relatives say committed suicide yesterda
bruising confirmation hearings about the nomination of former senator chuck hagel for secretary of defense. today, republican senator john mccain promised a grilling on hagel's record against a troop surge in iraq. >> when he really believes that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, that clearly is not -- that's not correct. i mean, in fact, it's bizarre. >> hagel has also faced fire for supporting negotiations with iran, still widely believed to be on the path of...
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i think he will do a great job as secretary of defense. i think in his confirmation hearings, all of these issues that you raise, that others have raised, he'll be prepared to deal with. i read some of the responses that he has already put together. i think he will make a very, very spirited defense of his position. i think he'll be confirmed. >>> other foreign leaders are less convinced. top republicans on the senate armed services and foreign relations committees responsible for the pick for the pentagon. >> can you be for senator hagel? in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who has been shot at in -- >> he's a veteran, he's a friend what is his view of america's role in the world? whether he really believes that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war. that clearly is not -- that's not correct. that's -- in fashgct, it's biza. why would he oppose calling the iranian na iranian guard a terrorist organization. >> would you vote ag
i think he will do a great job as secretary of defense. i think in his confirmation hearings, all of these issues that you raise, that others have raised, he'll be prepared to deal with. i read some of the responses that he has already put together. i think he will make a very, very spirited defense of his position. i think he'll be confirmed. >>> other foreign leaders are less convinced. top republicans on the senate armed services and foreign relations committees responsible for the...
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and terence took issue with pete rose's defense of roger clemens. >> well, two confessions, i personally have known pete rose for 35 years. he was my all time favorite player growing up as a youth. it pains me to say this but pete is wrong about this. roger clemens best friend at the time said roger clemens told him he used steroids. he backed out at the last minute when he was talking to the feds. the other thing pete said, numbers matter in baseball more so than any other sport. i mean, baseball's been around since 1869, have you these steroid users going against willie mays and hank aaron in history books is not fair to the guys of the past when you lump these knuckle heads in with them. >> this steroid era lasted awhile, could we see a repeat next year and the year after. >> two former atlanta braves heroes, they're going to right the ship, they will be first ballot hall of famers, no steroids there, this will become a moot point. >>> it's an unusual hunting contest even for florida. they're looking for pythons. john zarrella tells us why the state is holding a month long contest to
and terence took issue with pete rose's defense of roger clemens. >> well, two confessions, i personally have known pete rose for 35 years. he was my all time favorite player growing up as a youth. it pains me to say this but pete is wrong about this. roger clemens best friend at the time said roger clemens told him he used steroids. he backed out at the last minute when he was talking to the feds. the other thing pete said, numbers matter in baseball more so than any other sport. i mean,...
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they tell me you need to fund the defense department as such and such level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure you are paying to care for the veterans. they lay all of this out for me. because they have the spending power. i am required by law to go ahead and pay the bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling to make sure the bills are paid. so what congress cannot do is tell me to spend x then save but we will not give you the authority to pay the bills. i just want to repeat, because i think sometimes the american people understandably are not following all of the debate here in washington. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. we are not a dead beat nation. the consequences of us not paying our bills, as i outlined in the opening statement, would be disastrous. i understand the impulse to get around this in a simple way. but there is one way to get around this, and that is for congress to authorize me to pay for th
they tell me you need to fund the defense department as such and such level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure you are paying to care for the veterans. they lay all of this out for me. because they have the spending power. i am required by law to go ahead and pay the bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling to make sure the bills are paid. so what congress cannot do is tell me to spend x then save but we will not give you...
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let's listen to his defense. i don't think it was very strong but here it is. >> if you think about my first four years, the person who probably had the most influence on my foreign policy was a woman. the people who were in charge of moving forward my most important domestic initiative, health care, were women. the person in charge of our homeland security was a woman. my two appointments to the supreme court were women, and 50% of my white house staff were women. so i think people should expect that that record will be built upon during the next four years. >> well, but listening to andrea mitchell's reporting on this, and i have been following it, and i look at the top four jobs, state, treasury, defense and attorney general and chief of staff. the top five jobs, they're all going to four white guys and one -- >> right now we're having three white guys debate this. let's be self-aware here. let's just be self-aware. that's all. >> i can't change myself as quickly as the topics change but go ahead, chuck, you w
let's listen to his defense. i don't think it was very strong but here it is. >> if you think about my first four years, the person who probably had the most influence on my foreign policy was a woman. the people who were in charge of moving forward my most important domestic initiative, health care, were women. the person in charge of our homeland security was a woman. my two appointments to the supreme court were women, and 50% of my white house staff were women. so i think people...
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president doesn't seem to show the slightest interest in reducing spending other than in the area of defense and maybe means testing for entitlements. so, chances for meaningful reduction in the growth of entitlements on the part of the republicans is almost nil. >> well, i mean, what -- what could the republicans have done? the senate didn't approve their own plan until, what, midnight on new year's day and it -- they will say, the republicans will say they were up against the wall and didn't want the country to go over the fiscal cliff. should we have gone over the fiscal cliff, since that was the reality, if, in fact, they would have pushed for spending cuts? >> maria, i'm not about to second guess them. these are very smart people -- >> well, you are second guessing them. this is what this interview is about. >> i just like to state where i believe where we are and what's going to happen. >> okay, what do you think happens? >> so, i think that the -- as a result of the tax increases, we are going to collect substantially less revenues than we thought we would. and that is because the fed
president doesn't seem to show the slightest interest in reducing spending other than in the area of defense and maybe means testing for entitlements. so, chances for meaningful reduction in the growth of entitlements on the part of the republicans is almost nil. >> well, i mean, what -- what could the republicans have done? the senate didn't approve their own plan until, what, midnight on new year's day and it -- they will say, the republicans will say they were up against the wall and...
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to hold wikiwales feet to the fire in the broadcast's upcoming sea block but first i've come to the defense of a friend in need. my mentor, colleague and competitive couples massage partner bill o'reilly. we're going to regionals, bill. stay loose. he is once again being attacked by the liberal media for speaking the truth. you know what this means? this is blood in the water. shark, shark, shark, shark, shark, shark. folks on last thursday's the factor papa bear was discussing obama's home state of hawaii, aloha zone. he made this astute observation. >> i have to say hawaii is one of my favorite places in the world. a lot of social problems because they don't enforce the drug laws. you know what is shock 35% of the hawaiian population is asian. asian people are not liberal by nature. they are usually more indust industrious and hard working. >> stephen: leave it to liberal media to twist that to racism. he was not being racist. he was painting an entire race with one brush. speaking of which vietnamese, great painters. did my entire garage in an afternoon. didn't use scaffolding. they hung
to hold wikiwales feet to the fire in the broadcast's upcoming sea block but first i've come to the defense of a friend in need. my mentor, colleague and competitive couples massage partner bill o'reilly. we're going to regionals, bill. stay loose. he is once again being attacked by the liberal media for speaking the truth. you know what this means? this is blood in the water. shark, shark, shark, shark, shark, shark. folks on last thursday's the factor papa bear was discussing obama's home...
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criticism over this because his recent picks, which really are top cabinet posts, treasury, state, defense, cia director, have all been white men and that has rankled a number of critics, particularly female critics. >> brianna keilar at the white house, thank you. cnn chief political analyst gloria borger is with me here in "the situation room" right now. and, you know, of course we've got some quick reaction from house speaker boehner -- >> yeah, boom. >> absolutely, let's put it up. i'll read it. the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so too are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. so it certainly appears we're set up for another major showdown already. >> we are. i thirn it's going to be a bigger showdown in fact than the fiscal cliff. you know, the president today said, quote, we have to stop lurching from crisis to crisis to crisis. then he went and set the stage for yet another crisis, right. this time of co
criticism over this because his recent picks, which really are top cabinet posts, treasury, state, defense, cia director, have all been white men and that has rankled a number of critics, particularly female critics. >> brianna keilar at the white house, thank you. cnn chief political analyst gloria borger is with me here in "the situation room" right now. and, you know, of course we've got some quick reaction from house speaker boehner -- >> yeah, boom. >>...
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these guns and equipment are not designed for sport or home defense. they are designed to kill large numbers of people quickly. that's the only purpose they have. they belong on the battlefield in the hands of our brave, professionally-trained soldiers, not on the streets of our cities, suburbs or rural areas. as retired military leaders like colin powell and stanley mcchrystal have said. many of the weapons in this category were previously banned under the federal assault weapons law that expired in 2004 and that was, incidentally, first initiated and passed by joe biden. so he's the right person for the president to have appointed to come up with what we should do next. regulating assault weapons certainly falls within the bounds of the second amendment, and so does everything else we're urging. this is not a constitutional question. it's a question of political courage. the supreme court, the one that defines what the constitution means and says, has ruled that reasonable regulations are consistent with the second amendment. so when the gun lobby ra
these guns and equipment are not designed for sport or home defense. they are designed to kill large numbers of people quickly. that's the only purpose they have. they belong on the battlefield in the hands of our brave, professionally-trained soldiers, not on the streets of our cities, suburbs or rural areas. as retired military leaders like colin powell and stanley mcchrystal have said. many of the weapons in this category were previously banned under the federal assault weapons law that...
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they tell me, you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you're paying to care for our veterans. they lay this all out for me and because they have the spending power. and so, i am required by law, to go ahead and pay these bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling to make sure those bills are paid. so what congress can't do is, tell me to spend "x" and then say, but we're not going to give you the authority to go ahead and pay the bills. and i just want to repeat, because i think sometimes the american people understandably aren't following all of the debates here in washington, raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spends more. all it does is say, that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. and the consequences of us not paying our bills as i outlined in my opening statement would be disastrous. so, i understand the impulse to try to get around this in a simple way. but there's one way to get arou
they tell me, you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you're paying to care for our veterans. they lay this all out for me and because they have the spending power. and so, i am required by law, to go ahead and pay these bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling to make sure those bills are paid. so what congress can't do is, tell me to spend "x" and...
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the fbi says there's only 200 legally justified self-defense hom sighed a year and 309,000 gun deaths a year. tomorrow the vice president will send his boss recommendations for the white house's gun control package. this is part of what could be the most crucial moment in the obama administration. perhaps the most important legislation they'll ever propose. because gun laws do work. studies have shown firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun legislation. this map shows the ten states with the strongest gun laws and the ten with the lowest gun death rates. the correlation the seven states in green is strong. banning assault weapons, requiring trigger locks, and mandating safe storage works. the nra would like you to believe no legislation woot help. no one obvious law could have stopped adam lanza but we can make our world safer. public policy is meant to be aspir rational, to try to make the world better. the white house knows it just as it knows the right has gone far extreme on this, so far into second amendment absolutism, if it's not any weapon anywhere t
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and it's interesting that a lot of times you have people who recognize that when it comes to defense spending. some of the same folks who say we got to cut spending or complain that government jobs don't do anything when it comes to that defense contractor in their district, they think, wow, this is a pretty important part of the economy in my district. and we shouldn't stop spending on that. let's just make sure we're not spending on those other folks. [ inaudible ] >> look, my hope is that common sense prevails. that's always my -- my preference. and i think that would be the preference of the american people and that's what would be good for the economy. so let me just repeat. if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable, over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then, democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that, and we can achieve it fairly quickly. i mean we know what the numbers are. we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take and we've already done probably more than half
and it's interesting that a lot of times you have people who recognize that when it comes to defense spending. some of the same folks who say we got to cut spending or complain that government jobs don't do anything when it comes to that defense contractor in their district, they think, wow, this is a pretty important part of the economy in my district. and we shouldn't stop spending on that. let's just make sure we're not spending on those other folks. [ inaudible ] >> look, my hope is...
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peyton manning, i know a lot of people want to defend him and say he doesn't play defense, you know, the defenders let a lot of guys get behind him. he threw the back breaking interception, very reminiscent of brett favre back in 2009, off-season comes, denver got another go ais
peyton manning, i know a lot of people want to defend him and say he doesn't play defense, you know, the defenders let a lot of guys get behind him. he threw the back breaking interception, very reminiscent of brett favre back in 2009, off-season comes, denver got another go ais
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this season, a good offense is the best defense and lysol has your family covered because that's our mission for health. have given way to sleeping. tossing and turning where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving, or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day, have been reported. lunesta should not be taken together with alcohol. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations, or confusion. in depressed patients, worsening of depression, including risk of suicide, may occur. alcohol may increase these risks. allergic reactions such as tongue or throat swelling occur rarely and may be fatal. side effects may include unpleasant taste, headache, dizziness, and morning drowsiness. ask your doctor if lunesta is right for you. then find out how to get lunesta for as low as fifteen dollars at lunesta.com. there's a land of restful sl
this season, a good offense is the best defense and lysol has your family covered because that's our mission for health. have given way to sleeping. tossing and turning where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving, or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day,...
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defense secretary leon panetta said the u.s. is supporting the french effort with intelligence gathering assistance. and he didn't rule out american aircraft landing in mali to provide airlift and logistical support. for more, we're joined by j. peter pham of the africa center at the atlantic council in washington, d.c. and emeera woods, co-director of foreign policy in focus at the institute for policy studies. let's start with you. before we get to the french intervention, i want you to help people understand the context here a bit. what makes mali important and what has made it so volatile? >> well, ma'amy is a country on the west coast of africa that is really at the epicenter. it is on the sahara, the brink of the sahara and sub saharan africa. it is a country rich in resources from gold to uranium, vital minerals in mali. there are also explorations of oil, particularly in northern mali. so it is a country that is rich in resources, that has actually been really the center of a democratic process for quite some time. we ha
defense secretary leon panetta said the u.s. is supporting the french effort with intelligence gathering assistance. and he didn't rule out american aircraft landing in mali to provide airlift and logistical support. for more, we're joined by j. peter pham of the africa center at the atlantic council in washington, d.c. and emeera woods, co-director of foreign policy in focus at the institute for policy studies. let's start with you. before we get to the french intervention, i want you to help...
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defense lawyers argue that mubarak didn't know about the killings. the judge agreed, both men will be retried along with several others who were previously acquitted. no date has been set for the new trial. mubarak will remain in jail for the time being, currently facing corruption charges. just a few months ago, mubarak was reportedly near death and suffered a fall, but his current health status is unknown right now. egyptian politics have been violent and chaotic for the last two years since the former strongman was forced from power and today's ruling will do little to calm the the situation. harris. >> harris: connor, thank you. a new twist in cyber warfare to tell you about. cyber attackers are start to go get a taste of their own medicine. how it's being done and who is doing the work? we'll tell you. plus, thousands of people protesting in the streets of moscow. they have a message for president vladimir putin after his decision to prevent persons from adopting russian orphans. and it's been three years since an earthquake devastated haiti. so
defense lawyers argue that mubarak didn't know about the killings. the judge agreed, both men will be retried along with several others who were previously acquitted. no date has been set for the new trial. mubarak will remain in jail for the time being, currently facing corruption charges. just a few months ago, mubarak was reportedly near death and suffered a fall, but his current health status is unknown right now. egyptian politics have been violent and chaotic for the last two years since...
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and defensive denver. you're ahead. you don't let a player get behind you. you need to keep everything in front of you. that was a crucial mistake. >> also the quarterback for the ravens. >> joe flacco. >> he's investigate a very good arm. >> you know what? that's a very great story line coming into the season. he had his last year of his contract to seen a very lucrative contract. he said let me roll the dice. you know what? he's going to be paid some big money at the end of the season. he's looking good. >> how about that moment with peyton and ray lewis? >> that was outstanding. two future hall of famers at the end. peyton waited 90 minutes after the game to get with him. >> and is this payton's little boy here? >> i say this lovingly. we say, look at the head on that young man. of course, he's just like his dad. of course. that is peyton. >> let's talk about next week into the super bowl. have you got any predictions. >> you know what? we just want the best teams that are playing well. new england peaking at the right time. they're the closest thing to a
and defensive denver. you're ahead. you don't let a player get behind you. you need to keep everything in front of you. that was a crucial mistake. >> also the quarterback for the ravens. >> joe flacco. >> he's investigate a very good arm. >> you know what? that's a very great story line coming into the season. he had his last year of his contract to seen a very lucrative contract. he said let me roll the dice. you know what? he's going to be paid some big money at the...
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i also care about a secretary of defense who is going to be able to look to the future and our future issues are going to be the drawdown in afghanistan, which is long overdue, the redeployment of assets to some extent to the asia pacific region, and then looking at real reform around our contracting practices and around our procurement practice. >> is hagel that man? >> that means you're going to have to have -- >> he is an independent voice, and he is somebody who is not shying away from going against conventional wisdom, and i think if you are iffing to tackle the really big issues that exist in the pentagon in terms of real internal reform, you are going to have someone who is willing to go against the status quo, and that is corporations, and that is special interests. the big cost drivers like health care and personnel, these are going to be the challenges right around the corner, and looking at chuck hagel's history would suggest to me that he is an independent voice who thinks for himself who isn't afraid to go against the status quo. it seems to me that they'll deliberate it
i also care about a secretary of defense who is going to be able to look to the future and our future issues are going to be the drawdown in afghanistan, which is long overdue, the redeployment of assets to some extent to the asia pacific region, and then looking at real reform around our contracting practices and around our procurement practice. >> is hagel that man? >> that means you're going to have to have -- >> he is an independent voice, and he is somebody who is not...
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president obama among them an those cabinet nominations including chuck hagel for secretary of defense, both democrats and republicans here still have a lot of questions about hagel and his views. they plan to ask those questions at the confirmation hearings. also congress has got to deal with the debt ceiling. we're hitting it yet again. sometime in mid-february, authorities believe. and this time it looks like republicans will be pushing for cuts and social will be on the table. finally, you mentioned vice president biden meeting today with cabinet members to finalize recommendations on guns including pushing for an assault weapons ban, but also what he said is a comprehensive approach to gun control. the nra and others don't believe in assault weapons ban can pass in congress. we'll get his recommendations tomorrow. >> thank you. >>> colin powell is speaking out on nbc's "meet the press" he endorsed chuck hagel to be the new defense secretary. he said hagel would do a great job at the pentagon. powell also fired harsh words at his own republican party. >> there's also a dark -- a da
president obama among them an those cabinet nominations including chuck hagel for secretary of defense, both democrats and republicans here still have a lot of questions about hagel and his views. they plan to ask those questions at the confirmation hearings. also congress has got to deal with the debt ceiling. we're hitting it yet again. sometime in mid-february, authorities believe. and this time it looks like republicans will be pushing for cuts and social will be on the table. finally, you...
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. >> and the devastating impact the defense cuts will have on our military and country superstar john rich. ♪ save a horse ride a cowboy ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> a great audience here today, thank you so much and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. okay. i found a new way, this week, to make liberals really, really mad at me. here is what you do. just repeat what liberals are saying. they hate it when conservatives agree with them. all right. the new york times started all this by publishing a photo of the president meeting with what the white house described as his key economic advisors during the fiscal cliff negotiations. they noted that every one in the room was of the male gender. so, the white house press corps peppered spokesman jay carney about all the men he's appointing to major slots and carney dug his own hole and jumped into it saying the president is looking for the best people. and caused the women mo supported the president if he's saying there weren't qualified women available. democratic
. >> and the devastating impact the defense cuts will have on our military and country superstar john rich. ♪ save a horse ride a cowboy ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> a great audience here today, thank you so much and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. okay. i found a new way, this week, to make liberals really, really mad at me. here is what you do. just repeat what liberals are saying. they hate it...
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cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement picking this guy? >> he also thought he would give him cover on the necessary defense reductions. he's a republican. therefore, he helps them with that. that's pretty much shot. chuck hagel is no longer seen as a republican. he's seen as a -- an outliar. chris: let's talk about guns. this is tough. guns. can he get something? can he get something big? >> you're seeing that argument sort of play out right now in the white house. with -- looks at whether they will push for that. full ban on assault weapons instead of going after the magazines to -- or the clips. chris: and will they go for the whole enchilada? that senator sfeen has been
cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement picking this guy? >> he also...
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these guns and equipment are not designed for sport or home defense. they are designed to kill large numbers of people quickly. that's the only purpose they have. they belong on the battlefield. >> now, keep in mind, getting assault weapons ban through congress could be a extraordinarily difficult, so gun control advocates are going after retailers, especially huge ones like walmart. senator chuck schumer saying just yesterday, tried to shame walmart into halting gun sales. >> it is hard to believe that walmart, the nation's largest retailer, is being so irresponsible on this issue. i would hope that people would think twice about going to walmart if they persist in this attitude. >> let me go to george howell. you've been following this part of the story and so a protest is planned in newtown at a walmart tomorrow. >> right. >> what do organizers expect out of that? >> well, brooke, you know, first of all, you hear these mothers from the sandy hook promise, you can tell there is a great deal of sadness around this issue. but you also find frustration.
these guns and equipment are not designed for sport or home defense. they are designed to kill large numbers of people quickly. that's the only purpose they have. they belong on the battlefield. >> now, keep in mind, getting assault weapons ban through congress could be a extraordinarily difficult, so gun control advocates are going after retailers, especially huge ones like walmart. senator chuck schumer saying just yesterday, tried to shame walmart into halting gun sales. >> it is...
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"colin powell defends chuck to bes qualifications the next defense secretary." what did we find out on the sunday shows? caller: that things done not all clear. we have a story that we've posted yesterday, bob corker is now the ranking member. this will steer the confirmation battles from senator kerrey. shut hegel served on the foreign relations committee when he was a senator. if -- chalk heghuck hegel sir re foreign relations committee when he was a senator. they said they had formal studies to do on his record. there seems to be a lot of people from both parties, but primarily republicans, who are expressing skepticism. what remains to be seen is whether or not they will allow the nomination to go through, even if they oppose it. this would require the democrats to come up with 60 votes. host: the piece from "the new york times" this morning is that hegel will meet with chuck schumer. the headline says that it could be a crucial moment to advance the nomination. he is expected to press him on issues. schumer will be the first to meet with hegel since the nom
"colin powell defends chuck to bes qualifications the next defense secretary." what did we find out on the sunday shows? caller: that things done not all clear. we have a story that we've posted yesterday, bob corker is now the ranking member. this will steer the confirmation battles from senator kerrey. shut hegel served on the foreign relations committee when he was a senator. if -- chalk heghuck hegel sir re foreign relations committee when he was a senator. they said they had...
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in her defense, even though i'm going to defense the school here, in her defense she did disclose this in the very beginning and the school did make assurances that they wouldn't expose her to young children. there was nothing this her contract that says they wouldn't move her around between high school and middle school. we are talking about a couple of years of difference here. and they didn't do anything to break the terms of their -- of her union contract and she still would be there had she not chosen to quit. so i don't see what the problem is. martha: i have a fear of middle school students. i have two of them living in my house, they are terrifying, so i totally understand. keith, there is a little history here as there always is. the high school started to go online and do some of their french teaching language teaching online. she was unhappy about that. she talked to parents about that unhappiness and she got in some trouble. she was republican pre mannedded. then she moved her to the middle school. she's been teaching in the middle school, she says her blood pressure is inc
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these same republicans say they don't want to cut defense. they claim that they don't want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable, but the truth of the matter is that you can't meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. so the math just doesn't add up. now, here's what would work. what would work would be for us to say we've already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction, and if you add the interest that we won't be paying because of less spending and increased revenue, it adds up to about $2.5 trillion. the consensus is we need about $4 trillion to stabilize our debt reduction, which means we need about $1.5 trillion more. the package i offered to speaker boehner before we -- before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure that we are being responsible about our debt and our deficit, if that's the conversation we're having, i'm happy to have that conversation. a
these same republicans say they don't want to cut defense. they claim that they don't want to gut medicare or harm the vulnerable, but the truth of the matter is that you can't meet their own criteria without drastically cutting medicare or having an impact on medicaid or affecting our defense spending. so the math just doesn't add up. now, here's what would work. what would work would be for us to say we've already done close to $2 trillion in deficit reduction, and if you add the interest...
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power to lay and collect taxes, duties imposed and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the united states. my god, my god, can we provide for the general welfare of those hurricane sandy survivors who are not victims but have lost loved ones and in fact are the second most costly hurricane in america's history, katrina, sandy and hurricane ike. i speak from what i know. i beg of this congress to vote for the new jersey amendment for $33 billion and as well the others and let us be able to look back on their needs and go back to the table to help them if they are in need. constitution asks us to do that. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from california. mr. denham: madam speaker, the sandy recovery improvement act will speed up recovery efforts and reduce costs. i want to just touch on one important piece of this legislation. it will allow greater flexibility to reduce rebuilding time and lower costs. this gives the local governments greater flexibility to consolidate or rebuild facilities by a
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because they don't have a big defense. and you cannot let a rookie quarterback, 27 points in the fourth down the stretch in the game. >> how big would russell wilson be if he played for an east coast team? >> he's big anyway. nfl, you can play anywhere and still be big. it's a tremendous job by the seahawks to get back in this game. remember the first half they had all the fumbles, missed the field goal. >> help me out here. the falcons -- first of all, mike barnicle, we love pete carroll. >> called the time-out, can't call a time-out. he's annoyed that he had the practice kick. that's why he's yelling at the official. >> gives him a second chance, this time it goes straight through the middle. can you tell me, though, what in the world happened on the ensuing kickoff? >> stupid. >> what were the falcons doing? on-side kick? >> i guess they said that he didn't execute it properly. kicked the ball deep. he's not going to run it back for a touchdown. they give the ball up midfield with seven or eight, give him a couple plays
because they don't have a big defense. and you cannot let a rookie quarterback, 27 points in the fourth down the stretch in the game. >> how big would russell wilson be if he played for an east coast team? >> he's big anyway. nfl, you can play anywhere and still be big. it's a tremendous job by the seahawks to get back in this game. remember the first half they had all the fumbles, missed the field goal. >> help me out here. the falcons -- first of all, mike barnicle, we love...
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. >>> secretary of defense nominee chuck hagel received strong support from former secretary of state colin powell. >> he's superbly qualified based on hisoverrual effort and service to -- his overall effort and his service to the country, based on how he feels about troops and families and veterans. i think he will do a great job as secretary of defense. >> hagel can expect tough questions from senators during his confirmation hearing which may begin this week. some senators said they're not comfortable with some of his comments about israel, iran, and gays in the military. >>> former president george h. w. bush could get out of a houston hospital sometime this week. a family spokesman says they're hopeful and they're taking things one day at a time. the 88-year-old former president went into the hospital november 23 to be treated for bronchitis, but he remained there after battling a stubborn fever and a cough. >>> 7:16. lance armstrong says he is ready to speak candidly in his big interview with oprah winfrey today. it's's billed as a no holds barred 90-minute constituentdown. arms
. >>> secretary of defense nominee chuck hagel received strong support from former secretary of state colin powell. >> he's superbly qualified based on hisoverrual effort and service to -- his overall effort and his service to the country, based on how he feels about troops and families and veterans. i think he will do a great job as secretary of defense. >> hagel can expect tough questions from senators during his confirmation hearing which may begin this week. some...
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personal defense is important to me. congressman thompson, your committee has waded in some very deep water here. i think your actions in politics could stabilize or they could have some very serious unintended consequences. it's obvious to me that there are those who oppose the second amendment and absorbing not implying that to you. but there are those who do that, and they use political subterfuge to slowly undo the this fundamental right. by means of agencies, bureaucracies -- [applause] -- >> without having to answer to the american people. california, for example, to realize it's a federal thing we're talking budget, but california, for example, has created a twisted base of fire arm regulation, including for the purpose of legitimate personal safety and self-defense in constant jeopardy of being criminalized. our legislatures response, there's not a proposal to double down on failure and fingerprint people who buy ammunition. i hope to hear from you this evening a promise as one of our representatives in congress
personal defense is important to me. congressman thompson, your committee has waded in some very deep water here. i think your actions in politics could stabilize or they could have some very serious unintended consequences. it's obvious to me that there are those who oppose the second amendment and absorbing not implying that to you. but there are those who do that, and they use political subterfuge to slowly undo the this fundamental right. by means of agencies, bureaucracies -- [applause] --...
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does the defense is $200. now with finance degree of support from the bicyclist booms i mean the dog people... i get them confused sometimes sorry >> snow bomit was a big night fr baben affleck for argo. >> coming up on the kron4 morning news after our show you can watch dr. phil perry also at at 4:00 for another dr. phil. we will be right back. >> after a 113 day locked out the san jose sharks are back on the ice for their very first day of training camp. >> start fans gave a standing ovation as they watched their team come back on the eyes. >> it has been a long time and it has been kind of boring without the sharks here. it is a good day. >> and that it saves for the warm welcome they waved their stakes for the people saluting them as they walked in from their long walk out. >> we appreciate them. >> the fans were teal and black in the stadium and looked on with a mixture of excitement and relief. they are getting a high preseason after all even though only consist of 48 games instead of 82. >> i am so exci
does the defense is $200. now with finance degree of support from the bicyclist booms i mean the dog people... i get them confused sometimes sorry >> snow bomit was a big night fr baben affleck for argo. >> coming up on the kron4 morning news after our show you can watch dr. phil perry also at at 4:00 for another dr. phil. we will be right back. >> after a 113 day locked out the san jose sharks are back on the ice for their very first day of training camp. >> start fans...
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like somebody, let's look at this together and the republicans aren't in this mindset, either, to his defense. but it doesn't look like our leaders in washington are about to come to some kumbayah, let's washing it out moment? >> i don't think so, in the house, the caucus, half of willing to go into default. and it's like going to dinner and leave before the check comes. >> megyn: it's not just they that wracked up. >> reagan tripled the national debt and george w. bush doubled it. >> megyn: how about president obama? >> that's 60%, maybe reach bushes with the help of house republicans who aren't going to negotiate a balanced plan. the idea of threatening default is terrible. >> megyn: is that what they're threatening or a red herring, some republicans say if we have to do it we'll do it, but we're thinking we'll get to the point where there'll be government shutdown and we'll be able to pay the bills with tax income coming in at treasury and not going to do anything other than shutting down the government. that's the rift. >> to that point, it's clear the spending issue has to be dealt with
like somebody, let's look at this together and the republicans aren't in this mindset, either, to his defense. but it doesn't look like our leaders in washington are about to come to some kumbayah, let's washing it out moment? >> i don't think so, in the house, the caucus, half of willing to go into default. and it's like going to dinner and leave before the check comes. >> megyn: it's not just they that wracked up. >> reagan tripled the national debt and george w. bush...